With
the global financial meltdown and everyone’s quest for cash,
this seems a highly topical book because we are all “coming
for money.” Yet although money has values printed on bills and
stamped on coins, you seem to say something quite different. To you,
what is the value of money in the life of a person?
F.W. vom Scheidt: The question might better be: What is the value of money in human life where we all face certain mortality? The ultimate futility of the acquisition of material things that do not accompany us in death is obvious. The misery of poverty is obvious. The merit of altruism is obvious. Despite all these truths, the value of the money itself remains, for most human beings, mired in layers of greed and fear.
How
is that? Or, perhaps more importantly, why is that?
vom Scheidt: When you strip away the material acquisitions, recognition, and status that are the transient rewards of greed, and expose that we can be as easily hated as admired for the accumulation of money, you are still left with the paradox that we seek money to measure the progress of our endeavours, to improve the circumstances of our lives, and to protect ourselves and the people in our lives from future adversity.
So
what’s left?
vom Scheidt: Working every day in close proximity to money, I was forced to spend a great deal of time and thought on that very question, if for no other reason than to construct some sense of meaning in my own life. Over the years the answer that came to me was that the value of money to a person is that money accelerates experience.
Accelerates
experience?
vom Scheidt: It's a concept that begins with recognizing that the most precious thing in this life is time, because our time is limited by our death. We cannot buy more time with our money. But, like Albert Einstein's theories for uniting space and time into space-time and "bending" the velocity of space-time, in a parallel way we can increase the amount of time in our lives by combining experience and time into experience-time. We can "stretch" the amount of our experience-time by accelerating the amount of experience in it. And that is the value of money.
If that's the theory, how does it work?
vom Scheidt: Imagine two men living in separate huts by a river. For both, the experience quotient in their lives is the sum of the experience of living in the hut and the experience of walking from the hut to the river and back fetching water each day. Through some fortunate circumstance, the second man acquires some money and buys a goat. The experience quotient of the second man begins to increase, because now he is bringing food and water to the goat, watching the goat grow, milking the goat, making cheese from the goat's milk, walking miles to a market to sell the cheese, taking in all of the sights along the way, and hearing other voices and other opinions in the market. The result is an exponential increase in the second man's experience quotient.
Meanwhile, the experience quotient of the first man remains the sum of the hut
and river. Two lives with an equal amount of time measured by an equal number
of days, but the second life has much denser experience. Because money accelerated
the experience in the second man's life by increasing experience-time, even this
simplistic example illustrates the value of money in enriching our life.
Moving
from the personal experience of someone who is empowered by money to
lead a richer range of experiences in life to the larger impersonal picture,
however, the money markets themselves seem quite ruthless or unsentimental
in how they allocate resources. Is this your view?
vom Scheidt: The markets themselves are not ruthless and unsentimental. In theoretical economics, markets are efficient, attracting capital where it will obtain the greatest return with the least amount of risk. But markets are "made" by human beings. As human beings do in all endeavours in this life, they bring an untold wealth of knowledge, talent, integrity, and imagination to financial markets. But they also bring the human weaknesses of greed and fear.
It is usually when the equilibrium between all of these things is lost that greed and fear become the driving forces in the financial markets. Greed and fear are ruthless and unsentimental in how they allocate resources to any human endeavour. As we have seen time and again throughout history, not just in the recent developments alone, when greed and fear drive markets into unsustainable levels, all such markets inevitably collapse.
I
guess that’s why, even though money markets are often spoken
of as autonomous entities operating almost like a force of nature,
in Coming for Money you paint a portrait, really an insider’s
view, with humans very much present in the scene. Are you saying the
general public perception of the world of high finance is incomplete
or simplistic?
vom Scheidt: Very much so, just as simplifying or stereotyping
any human endeavour is always inaccurate.
Then
should a person whose life becomes enslaved to money—making it,
taking it, manipulating it—be pitied, like any other addict who’s
lost control over his or her own life? Is that a message in Coming
for Money?
vom Scheidt: It is not the central message, but it is
certainly one of the messages.
Because our societies
equate financial success with a successful life, we are often blind to the
inner stories of countless people in all endeavours who, in their desperate
search for inner happiness, endlessly repeat a formula for financial success
even while remaining deeply unhappy due to unresolved emotional and psychological
issues at their core.
With
the approach you take to money, and the philosophy you’ve just
been expressing, do you feel Coming for Money is breaking new
ground?
vom Scheidt: At my last count, there are not many literary
writers originating from the financial world. I write from personal experience.
I write from what I know best.
In this novel I’ve
written as truthfully as possible about the world of international finance,
not with the over-dramatization so common in film and television, but with
an intimate telling through a first-person narrative of what it can be like
to labour in the world of money spinning…of how the money’s
immense leverage for triumph or disaster doesn’t so much corrupt people
as corrupt the way they treat each other…of how the relentless demands
of the money so often deprive a person of sufficient time and energy to live
through the events of their emotional and interior life.
Love
lost can create feelings of guilt, bitterness, even despondency. Here
you portray a character, Paris Smith, who is trying to carry on despite
such a hole in the very centre of his being. Do you think this is common?
vom Scheidt: I think we all suffer the “slings
and arrows of outrageous fortune” in this life. I do, sadly, see
many people succumb to this. But I also see many carry on. In fact, I have
come to think that what is best about us, what may be our highest calling
as human beings, is surviving and continuing and always summoning enough
courage to take the next step in the journey of our lives.
When
referring to “courage,” do you see that as a defining attribute
of surviving?
vom Scheidt: Yes, but let's be clear about the complexity here. As much as this is a story of conflicts between people, it is also a story of the conflicts of a man with himself. He has doubts about his abilities. He has guilt about how he has failed and hurt others. He has heartbreak of losing at love when he needs more than anything to be loved. He is angry at being betrayed in his marriage and in his career. He fears failure. He is, in short, living with many of the emotional issues that confront all of us in our daily lives. So that is why I have tried to tell this story in a way that will let others in our increasingly isolated society know that they are not alone.
It
would be easy to feel oneself a victim in such circumstances.
vom Scheidt: We hear a lot about victims in our era. That is why I have also tried to say something in Coming for Money about the value of not surrendering to the seduction of victimizing others, as a defence against being victimized. In writing a narrative about not giving up, I attempt to capture something true and evocative about how all journeys toward the light begin in darkness. I hope to offer readers some assurance that, in undertaking such journeys, they can become restored to wholeness, because that is what I believe. That is what I have witnessed.
How
did you conceive of this particular character and his story?
vom Scheidt: I sat down at the keyboard. Although I have always been a literary writer, I had no idea how I would capture my experiences in international finance through literary fiction. Without thinking, the first sentence came to me. I typed it. Then I looked at that sentence for a long time.
Instinct told me that
the sentence had risen from something that was deeply absorbing me, and that
it was something I had to tell. I knew I had to find some way to tell it
truthfully. From that point, I knew there was no way out…except
to construct the novel.
Hollywood
makes movies about the glamour of money, and other writers have treated
the lives of those caught in worlds of high finance they cannot control.
What, if anything, sets Coming for Money apart from those works?
vom Scheidt: While Coming for Money is a story that advances from chapter to chapter along the corporate intrigue that beats at its heart, and continually mirrors the financial headlines of our daily newspapers, it is much more. It is an illustration of what happens to us as human beings when we lose emotional connectiveness, when we lose emotional logic. I think that is somewhat different from writing about the lives of individuals caught in high finance plots they cannot control.
Is
this why you portray individuals imprisoned, not behind steel bars, but
rather in what might be called their emotional cells?
vom Scheidt: I illustrate in detail the plight of one man, Paris Smith, whose story begins in a state of emotional imprisonment-because he is tragically, if admirably, flawed. He is not flawed in the classic Shakespearean sense of a noble man who is brought to ruin by his own avarice or rage. His weakness is not that he lusts after wealth or power or flesh. Rather, and far more important for us in these times, he is flawed in that he never learned the great lesson of his generation: don't become emotionally involved! Smith's weakness is that he needs, and has always needed, emotional involvement in order to sustain his life. It is for him-as, ultimately, it is for us all-as necessary as breathing.
Is
that emotional connectiveness the core of the story?
vom Scheidt: Essentially, yes. I think that, as Paris Smith refuses to relinquish his search for emotional connectiveness, he becomes a character we learn to appreciate and admire. I hope readers will appreciate him as much as I do for the sometimes stubborn, sometimes creative, battles he wages against other men in his corporation who are pitted against him. In doing so, Paris Smith becomes ever more conscious of how he could stem his personal pain and loneliness. He might do so by simply retreating emotionally and victimizing those around him. Or he might learn anew how to offer up his own emotional involvement. I'll leave it for readers to see how this plays out in the end, and what moral they may want to find about the human quest in contemporary times.
Let’s
turn from Smith to you. Earning an MBA is a common apprenticeship for
entrants into the world of commerce and finance, but you arrived by a
very different route as an artist, musician, and writer. Did this give
you special sensitivity to understanding the pressures of big money?
vom Scheidt: I suppose it brought an emphasis on creating something of value, and a discipline to practice and concentrate on doing it well, like artists must. Seeking to capture life truthfully in any medium requires a dedication to integrity. That artistic code becomes a natural advantage when transposed to a business environment.
I found that a practice
of concentrating on integrity brought a bedrock of truth and governance to
my business management. I also found that it applied greatly to investment
decisions, which not only require foresight and judgement, but also integrity
of conviction to avoid the sway of greed or panic, and maintain clarity amid
the noise and confusion of information overload. From this flows the value
you add to the amalgamation of money and opportunity.
What
about artistic sensibility or sensitivity? Did that transpose well also?
vom Scheidt:My sensitivity has, perhaps, been in simultaneously
understanding the pressures of money and in understanding people. The great
fallacy of the financial industry is that its workings are accomplished
with money. They are not. They are accomplished with people—people
who need to be understood and valued, people with whom you must communicate.
Maintaining sensitivity to people in an insensitive environment helps bring
them to a common focus: on value, on integrity, and on success.
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